A Godly Vote(r)
There are six things that the LORD hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood…Proverbs 6:16-17a (ESV)
I understand that a responsible American should vote. A responsible Christian has to consider the Lord and His Word in that vote.
I also understand that a responsible Christian will vote according to the Word of God. The “lying tongue” and “hands that shed (or want to legalize the shedding of) innocent blood” are in both major parties. Offering abortions at the party’s national convention is an abomination of grand proportions in my mind.
In the “Institutes of Biblical Law,” by R.J. Rushdoony, in the section on the 9th commandment; You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. Exodus 20:16 (ESV), has a section he calls “The Lying Tongue.” One thing he points out is that it has become accepted practice within the realm of the state to lie as deemed necessary to accomplish the desired agenda. Sigh. It appears we are still there.
(I am skeptical about that kind of blanket statement. Does “every” candidate lie?)
I questioned it in my mind and tried to apply it to all I’ve been seeing and hearing from political candidates in the current elections. I realized that many of the lies are so obvious that no one could believe them. Some, I’m sure, I and many others have not yet seen as lies.
Back in 2022 the man running for Governor (in Pennsylvania) against the incumbent promised he “will” remove the school taxes from our properties. We still have property taxes. I like to think he really wanted to change that but he had to know he would not have the power to implement it.
Another man running for office then said, if elected, he would change the way we pay for public schools. He did not say we would not pay for them, just that it would not be attached to our property. It is still the same.
It is hardly necessary to look for more but in 2020 I drove past a billboard with “Uncle Sam” on it which read:
If you want to Fix:
- Healthcare
- Education
- Social Security
Vote Democratic on November 6th
(They won.)
There could be some discussion on whether or not this was a promise, but it certainly surprised me. Leaving aside the question of whether the government should be involved in any of these things, there are different ways to “fix” them. So far, no politician has been able to pass any legislation that has helped with any of them.
As a Christian I want to vote for godly candidates; “A lying tongue” will not do. “Hands that shed innocent blood” will not do. So this is my appeal to godly people; please run for public office so I may vote with a good conscience. I want to both enter and leave the voting booth having remained faithful to God while living responsibly in the land where He placed me.
Please tell me if I have missed the godly qualities of someone on our 2024 ballot.
SMACK ON! I couldn’t have said it any better myself. Actually, I was trying hard in my mind to formulate the words you presented. Thanks! May I use them in some of my comments to those who need to know?
I suspect that God’s people are being destroyed today because they are rejecting the knowledge of their true lawful “standing” or place in the political community as they relate to the unregenerate unbelieving subjects/citizens/members of the political community or body politic.
You have a dilemma. For whom shall you cast your vote to rule over you? As a Christian you know you should vote according to the Law of God. Where in God’s Law does He instruct His people to vote for men to rule over them because I can find no such instructions on how God’s people ought to vote?
Do these rights to vote or to have an abortion come from God? If so where in the Word of God does He give us these rights?
My question is should God’s people register and vote as Amendment 14 citizens of the United States federal government when they are members of the body of Christ, UNITED the government laid on the shoulder of Jesus and the advancement of which there will be no end?
What is a spiritual man or woman of God doing when they cast their vote for SECULAR men to rule over them?
The Apostle Paul, admits that before he was born anew and converted he stoned to death the saints. He confesses in Acts 26:10 – “When they were put to death, I cast my vote against them.”
When God’s people cast their vote in November will they not be casting their vote against everyone and everything the elected senators and representatives in the secular government casts a stone against in the name of nation-building, national security, or for a woman’s right to abort her unborn child?
As you should know in Pennsylvania it is only Amendment 14 federal citizens 18 yrs. or older who has been a “citizen of the United State” [i.e. federal citizen] for at least one month and shall have “resided” in the Sate 90 days immediately preceding the election and “resided” in the district where he or she shall offer to vote at least 60 days immediately preceding the election.
Have you ever defined the term “citizen?”
Citizen are members of a political community who [are yoked or joined] in their associated capacity, who have established or SUBMITTED themselves to the DOMINION [absolute control] of a government FOR the promotion of their [yoked together] general welfare and the PROTECTION of their individual as well as collective rights. … The citizen CANNOT COMPLAIN because he has VOLUNTARILY SUBMITTED HIMSELF to such a form of government.” United States v. Cruikshang 92 US 542
If the court is correct then no one is born a citizen of the United States since an infant cannot VOLUNTARILY consent to be governed or submit to the dominion of such a form of government.
If I were to voluntarily submit to such a secular form of government and that government made abortion legal then every time a unborn creation of God was murdered I would by voting for the officials in the government be casting my vote to allow such abortions. By voting to have believers stoned to death Paul understood that he was the one who cast the first stone by voting to allow the evil act to be carried out
Vote – Is the aggregate of the expressions of will or CHOICE [of the voters], thus manifested by individuals [individual voters], is called the “vote of the body.” Black’s Law Dictionary, 5th. Edition…
Your individual vote will be added to the votes of other individual voters and counted together AND THEN will be considered the VOTE OF THE BODY POLITIC or the MAJORITY RULE VOTE.
“When a change of government takes place, from a monarchial to a republican government, the old form is DISSOLVED. Those who lived under it, and DID NOT CHOOSE [citizenship is a choice] to become MEMBERS of the new, had a right to refuse their ALLEGIANCE to it, and to RETIRE elsewhere [i.e. retire out of the forum state/body politic]. By being a part of the society [body politic] subject to the old government, they had not [voluntarily] ENTERED into any engagement to become SUBJECT to any new form the MAJORITY might think proper to adopt. That the majority shall prevail is a rule posterior to the formation of government, and RESULTS from it. It is not a rule BINDING upon mankind in their natural state, There, every man is INDEPENDENT of ALL laws [civil laws], except those prescribed by nature [criminal law] . He is not BOUND by any institutions formed by his fellowmen WITHOUT HIS CONSENT.” Cruden v. Neale, 2 N.C. 338 (1796) 2 S.E. 70,
“… Governments are instituted among Men, DERIVING their just powers from the CONSENT of the governed.” When you voluntarily choose to accept the grant of federal citizenship and register and vote you are BOUND by [binding yourself to] the institution formed by the body politic of which you are a consenting subject member. therefore you cannot complain.
They will allow you to complain but that in only to make you think you have the right to do so.
The people of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, grateful to Almighty God, before they ordained and establish their form of civil government made a Declaration of Rights.
“That the general, great and essential principles of liberty and free government may be recognized and unalterably established,” WE DECLARE THAT —
Section 1. “All men are born equally free and INDEPENDENT, and have certain inherent and indefeasible rights, among which are those of enjoying and defending life and liberty, of acquiring, possessing and protecting property and reputation, and of pursuing their own happiness.”
Beth, “When one becomes a member of society [body politic] he necessarily parts with some rights or privileges which, as an individual not affected by his relations to others [other consenting members of the society or body politic] he might RETAIN.”
What are the duties of elders in the body of Christ – i.e the Church when a brother inquires and is concerned about certain matters – like God’s people accepting citizenship in the federal government and attempting to serve two sovereigns – one King Jesus and the other – the United States federal government.
When a brother in Christ asked questions in good faith shouldn’t an elder or other brothers in Christ respond and attempt to answer those questions?.
If your pastor and elders truly believe God’s people can serve two sovereigns then they should be ready to give an answer to every man, especially a brother, that asks them the reason of the hope that is in them that God’s allows them to owe absolute allegiance, fidelity and obedience to a secular body politic made up of unregenerate unbelievers.
Surely, if you read to the end you must have something that you disagree with. Please let me know what you disagree with. If you do not respond I will consider your silence to be evidence of your consent that what I have written is accurate, correct and true.
Judgment begins with the house of the Lord.
Peace be upon your house,
by: Harry-James – Ambassador for King Jesus Christ to the pagans
Thanks Dick. Use them any time!